I'm no expert on this, but what I know I'll share: The voltage/current at which we can "feel it" or "getting hurt" by it is frequency dependent-- due to the physiology of the body, muscles, etc. How *wonderful* that 60 hz is in probably the deadliest in our danger-zone frequency band of 5 Hz - 500 Hz. 60 Hz is so potentially deadly because it can cause muscle spasms/contraction that prevent you from letting go of live voltage sources. Also, unknown to many people, lower voltages like the home 110 V or 220 V can be more deadly that higer voltages (neglecting the tens of kV range) because the initial jolt of lower voltage sources is not sufficient to knock you off of the source like maybe 440 V is. Typically, transient currents of >= 1 mA can be felt. Whether or not it's lethal depends on many factors, most importantly: (1) the duration of the pulse (5-15 kV & up to 1 A for around 1 microsecond for carpet static discharge) and (2) whether that current gets routed near the heart. Currents as low as 40 mA, if they pass through the heart for sufficient duration, can be lethal. Carpet static is not lethal because of it's short duration and the capacity of the body to absorb the net quantity of charge injected (maybe 1A for 1 microsecond). Voltage and current are 2 different things-- the lethal potential of a pure voltage source depends upon physiological factors that determine body resistance. Dry, dead skin can have 100 kOhms of resistance while wet clammy palms can be as little as 100 ohms. That, obviously, will have a lot to do with the current that passes into your salty, good-conductor nerves/blood/blood vessles. That is why good electricians forced to work on live circuits avoid sticking BOTH hands in a live junction box at the same time-- it decreases the chances - Bart McCoy -----Original Message----- From: Clewell, Craig [mailto:cclewell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:55 AM To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: threshold ...that would depend on weather you are James Bond or an ordinary citizen. However, this may help ~~> http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/JackHsu.shtml http://www.smud.org/safety/world/hurt/chart.html -----Original Message----- From: hariharan [mailto:hariharan@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:44 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] threshold what is the threshold Voltage (V) and current (amps) beyond which human beings can get hurt or feel it? any idea...?? ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu