Try looking at the Duriod materials from Rogers www.rogers-corp.com/mwu/pdf/prodselect.pdf they have permeability between 2 and 3. the minimum thickness according to the spec is 125microns, but they might have thinner versions. Michael Khusid -----Original Message----- From: ? ?? To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 12/6/02 1:18 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] substrate can be used more than 40 GHz Hi Experts! I am looking for the substrate can be used more than 40 GHz with low relative permeability and loss tangent. I would like to design grounded CPW with the substrate. The substrate thickness is considered to be as small as order of tens of micrometer. So far, I have used alumina, but it's relative permeability is so large that cavity resonance often occurred in my design. Hope to get a good news from you... Regards, Kwang-Seong Choi _________________________________________________________________ ??? ???? ??? ???. AIG? ?????? ?????. http://www.msn.co.kr/webinclude/exredir.asp?STARTID=CLIP_5644&adgroup=KR MGEN&URL=http://msn.aigis.co.kr/weekly_msn/main.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu