=20 Dear Han Li, There is a powerful relationship between termination, topology and technology, which are sometimes called the "the three Ts". Subsequently, determining an effective termination strategy (for optimizing signal quality or timing margins) requires taking into account various features of topology and technology (of=20 driver and receiver components). This can necessitate modeling and simulation. Certain guidelines exist for use of series (source) and parallel (end) terminations. For instance, series termination is well suited for point-to-point (uni-directional) connections. It may be also applied for star topologies, or for cases when multiple receivers are clustered close to the end of the net. Parallel termination is=20 normally the superior choice for daisy chain (multi-drop) routing. Mathematical equations are available for estimating series terminator values as a function of driver output impedance and line characteristic impedance (Zo). Also, the values of parallel/far-end terminators are directly related to Zo. However, as mentioned earlier in this thread, the optimum type, location and=20 values of terminators (for high-speed nets) are usually ascertained with aid of simulation. Of course, in addition to series and parallel terminations there are other choices (such as Thevenin, AC parallel and Schottky diode terminations, etc.)=20 which are useful to know. A good paper on this topic is: http://www.edn.com/archives/1998/021698/04df_04.pdf Best Regards, Abe Riazi ServerWorks P.S. My article, "Signal Quality Assessment" PCD&M June 2007, discusses signal quality, noise management and the tree Ts, plus ten references for further studies. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Han Li Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:26 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] source-termination and daisy chain question Hi everyone, It seems a simple question,But I still have something i cannot completly understand. A daisy chain is often used in multidrop topology, which need an end-termination. And, source-termination doesnot work properly in daisy chain,because the device in the middle of the chain would get a plateau;using source-termination, all load should be at the end of the line. So, in a design , i should figure out minimul distance between, say two receivers. In other words, I should decide beyond what distance between two receivers , source-termination should not be used, and this topology can be named a daisy chain? Could anyone provide a deeper explanation? Thanks a lot! ---- ------ ------- Driver---------revceiver_1-----------------------receiver_2 ---- ------- -------- |-------------distance---------| -=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu