[Dimiter] > I am routing a board with an MPC5200 (freescale/mot) which has a > DDR interface (133 MHz clock). What sort of termination resistors = > (resistor arrays?) do I put? [David] > Overshoots are the biggest problem I have seen when running without any = > termination. [...] Now I'm scared again. I'm having a design layed out right now with no series resistors. Short (<5cm, probably typically 2-3cm for most banks) transmission lines - but interface towards a Xilinx FPGA that typically is not happy with over/undershoots. Luckily the DDR is only 2.5V - so I think it'll be ok. > Simulating a DDR design at the conditions above sounds like a waste of = > time to me, and please don't go into suggesting more simulation, I'd like to simulate - but have no tools and little time to learn/find cheap tools/models and learn to use them :-( > I am only looking for the right package/vendor/distributor of the resistors I > have to use, I know the rest of the story. I use 0804 quad packs in bulk. You can't go much smaller (31mW) if you can risk a steady bus. Bussed packages will save you som space but are typically more expensive, harder to get and worse SI wise. However, for this current design we use 0201 (50mW) - they'll fit nicely between the vias of the BGAs. Hence, the PCB designer and I loves them - but probably production is a bit more worried... Cheers, Anders ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu