hello all, trying to use IBIS models, i am stuck at the V-t curves/risng-falling & ramps section and to add to Jack's question on rising/falling V-t curves, i will appreciate if someone can help me understand a few basic things regarding IBIS model file- 1. what is the need of Ramps when waveform curve is already given? (backward compatibility??) 2. what input ramp is taken to get the listed fall-rise curves? (I read in eigroup.org's FAQs that "IBIS does not provide an Input pulse specification for deriving Ramp rates"). Then how do i get to see the same waveform in my simulator's waveviewer as listed in the IBIS file? 3. since IBIS model gives waveform only for a particular load(fixture), how does simulator for SI,bounce etc derive waveforms at different simulation(load) conditions? i tried using IBIS model of Altera's FPGA(Mercury_pci) in hspice. the dc curves are straightforward but the timing portion is unclear to me. hope to get some enlightment. regards ADEEL AHMAD ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu