> > >Ray and friends, > >I am always curious in the days of flip chip BGA's how does one view the >pwr/gnd loop inductance of a package ? >Does the core pwr/gnd current really flow through the BGA pwr/gnd planes or >does it really flow straight up from the C4 bump under the die through the >via from the PCB ? Depends on the exact package configuration, but a number of designs do indeed have current flowing through the package planes. >Does the presence of power/gnd planes in a BGA is more to >do with referencing the I/O and for the switching current to return. In the >later case measuring the pwr/gnd loop inductance is meaningless unless the >on die decoupling is presence and a specific I/O loop is known. As you know, on-die decoupling is pretty common these days, especially for core power in high-performance processors. I/O power inductance is a whole separate issue compared to core power inductance. > >In other words, why do we even need to measure the pwr/gnd plane loop >inductance ? Could be for a lot of reasons. One obvious one is to determine one of the elements in an accurate package resonance model. > >Chris -Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu