Hi Tony, Depends. If the L matrix is "partial inductance", then - to the first order - the self inductance will not change even if the coupling did not exists. If however the inductances are "loop inductances" then the change in coupling will change the on-diagonal numbers. With C, if the on-diagonal elements are SELF (not BULK), then the on-diagonal element will change if the coupling conductors were removed while not disturbing the ground reference. -Neeraj >"Dunbar, Tony" wrote: > > For the purposes of clarification:- > > Patrick initially stated "The on-diagonal parameters (e.g., L11) are > typically stated to be the self parasitics, ..." > > My understanding is that, rather than being purely "self parasitics", they > actually include the effects of coupled neighbors. As a consequence, for > example, L11 will actually be different (lower) than it will be if the same > primary structure existed without any coupled neighbors. > > Is that correct? > > Thanks, > Tony Dunbar > -- National Semiconductor Corporation 2900 Semiconductor Drive, M/S 19-100 Santa Clara, California 95051 http://www.national.com/, NYSE: NSM ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu