Again, "The Answer is All in the Matrix". Look at the capacitance matrix, and a two conductor example: |Q1| |C11 C12| |V1| |Q2|=3D|C21 C22| |V2| By looking at the physics, the diagonal elements represent the total = amount of charge storage on the conductor. This is the capacitance to = every other conductor and to ground. The off diagonal elements = represent the charge storage between the conductors, and as stated = before, they always have a negative value. Putting one volt on one = conductor 'attracts' negative charges to the other conductors. The issue is: How to translate the mathematical capacitance matrix into = elements of a SPICE file (Or other simulator type of package)? Answer: =20 1) The algebraic sum of either a row or a column is the capacitance to = ground. 2) The off diagonal element multiplied by negative one is the = capacitance between the conductors. For Example: Assume the Capacitance matrix has the following values: [C]=3D|10pf -0.2pf| |-0.2pf 10pf | Capacitance to ground: C11 + C12 =3D 10pf + (-0.2pf) =3D 0.8pf Capacitance between conductors: -1*C12 =3D -1*(-0.2pf) =3D 0.2pf If you're still reading this, (I know I might of lost interest by now :) = as any good engineer should do, let's take a look at the final answer = and relate it back to the original matrix: Looking at one conductor, there is a capacitor of 0.8pf to ground, and a = capacitor of 0.2pf to the other conductor. This is a total of 10pf of = charge storage available on the conductor which is the diagonal C11 = value. =20 A similar comparison to the off diagonal value is left as an exercise = for the user. :-) Hope this helps, Bill +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bill Beale Phone: 503-439-3462 Sr. System App. Engineer Fax: 503-477-9472 Accelerant Networks e-mail: bill_beale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On the world wide web @ http://www.accelerant.net +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >=20 > No; I don't have anything with a lot of depth. >=20 > If you look through the W-element section of the > Hspice manual, they discuss a bit, but they call it > the "C" matrix (not "B"). I believe the Ansoft manuals > describe it a bit as well. >=20 > Anyone else have a good reference? >=20 > > I haven't heard of this B-matrix before. Do you have any=20 > references? >=20 >=20 > Pat ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu