[SI-LIST] local and global ground
- From: "Perry Qu" <perry.qu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: si-list <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:37:20 -0500
Hi!
I tried to do some simulation in HSPICE on module connectors connecting
daughter
card with the main board. There is one problem I encountered related to
local ground and global ground node. Intuitively, I define the ground on
the main board as node "0" in HSPICE. The input ground node of connector
is
tied to "0" through very small resistor. At the output side, I used a
node "module_ground", which is linked with "0" on main board through
connector model (parasitic RLCs). At the daughter card side, I then use
this "module_ground" as the reference point for device, transmission
line, etc. This actually simulate the real life and I expect to find out
the noise on the "module_ground" due to inductive/resistive pins through
connectors.
However, in my simulation, I saw excessive noise (high frequency and
large
amplitude, which is definitely numerical noise rather than real thing)
using connector model from one vendor, and I got error message as
"inductor/voltage loop"
using connector model from another vendor.
By changing reference node on daughter card from "module_gnd" to "0",
the error is gone.
Wonder whether you have any experience to share on such problems,
especially with HSPICE.
Thanks
Perry
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