[SI-LIST] Re: just curious
- From: "kacief@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kacief@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bill_hargin@xxxxxxxxxxx, bdewitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:49:12 -0500
Hi All,
The delete button comes in very handy=2E I use it for those who are
obviously clueless and are using the list to increase their vicarious
knowledge and pad their resumes=2E I suspect that there is a lot of resume=
padding(a nice word) in progress=2EI have it on good authority that Intel =
has
shut down hiring of SI engineers in the states and has decised to hire
scads of them in India=2E I personnally have benefited by having a skill t=
hat
is not easily learned=2E However, I am sure we have all experienced
applicants who used keywords and a plausible explanation to show they are
knowledgeable=2E If the interview process is not rigorous enough to weed o=
ut
the fakers, the SI filed may become a group of chalatans=2E I think it is =
our
duty to prevent this from happening=2E
Jim Freeman
Original Message:
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From: Hargin, Bill bill_hargin@mentorg=2Ecom
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:52:26 -0800=20
To: bdewitt@ix=2Enetcom=2Ecom, si-list@freelists=2Eorg
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: just curious
Hi Brent =2E=2E=2E
> Has this list become the most popular technical list in India=20
> in the last
> few months???
Perhaps =2E=2E=2E This is an interesting question=2E The Internet, jet tr=
avel,
cell phones, and commercial broadcasting have progressively shrunk the
globe=2E As the globe shrinks, things that used to happen one state away,=
now happen countries and continents away=2E The underlying question
surrounding previously American jobs going to Asia or other regions
parallels the "protectionist" (import tariffs, etc=2E) vs=2E open market
question=2E (A difficult subject=2E)
I can't say I have a good feel for how an American engineer should respond=
=2E
The Indian and Chinese economies are growing faster than ours (in the
U=2ES=2E)=2E They buy U=2ES=2E products, and we hire some of their engine=
ers and
call center people to help develop and support some of those products=2E=20=
(Note: I'm not driving this, and you're not =2E=2E=2E it's being driven by=
immutable economic forces=2E)
If I could make a book recommendation =2E=2E=2E beyond some of the excelle=
nt SI
books that have been discussed on this list =2E=2E=2E it would be "Who Mov=
ed My
Cheese?" by Ken Blanchard ($13 paperback; $10 Audio on Amazon)=2E The poi=
nt
he makes -- in about a 2-hour read (longer, if you read slowly like I do)
-- is that change is going to happen=2E Jobs are going to move from Ameri=
ca
to India, or wherever=2E Instead of trying to hold onto the past, though,=
he
recommends "following the cheese=2E" The point is kind of obvious, but
sometimes the most obvious points are the ones that we habitually overlook=
=2E
The book covers a macro-level point that I believe applies here=2E I'm no=
t
sure what the "micro-level" answer is=2E Better training and
differentiation, perhaps? Move to India? Start a hardware engineers'
union? :-)
We see this in Seattle, where I live, all the time=2E Boeing employees (b=
oth
engineers and hourly workers) want to keep jobs and Boeing's headquarters
in Seattle=2E So, the company responds by moving the HQ to Chicago, and
farming out subassemblies to every part of the world=2E =20
I doubt that many people (Americans or otherwise) on this list have the
inertia or leverage to affect a trend of this magnitude =2E=2E=2E Or to st=
op the
free flow of information over the Internet, for example =2E=2E=2E So the b=
est
thing you and I can do is decide what we're going to do now that the chees=
e
is moving=2E If I had specific (micro-level)ideas, I'd be happy to share
them =2E=2E=2E Maybe someone else does=2E I'm doing well just to keep eno=
ugh
cheese on my table =2E=2E=2E And it's moved a few times these last 5 years=
,
requiring that I change my approach, and keep my eye on the cheese supply!=
Sorry if I'm raining on anyone's parade =2E=2E=2E I just think that compla=
ining
about this type of trend will only slow down a person's ability to respond=
effectively=2E
Bill Hargin
Redmond, WA, USA
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:si-list-bounce@freelists=2Eorg]On Behalf Of Brent DeWitt
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:11 PM
> To: si-list@freelists=2Eorg
> Subject: [SI-LIST] just curious
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> Has this list become the most popular technical list in India=20
> in the last
> few months???
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> Brent DeWitt
> Loveland, CO
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