Axel: Presumably you are operating at the usual RFID frequency of 125 KHz, most likely crystal controlled. At this frequency everything is in the near field and your "antenna" can be modeled as a loosely coupled inductor with respect to the RFID tag. Since you want to maximize that coupling, the most important parameter is the area of your antenna loop. You want to keep your winding as close to the periphery of the board as is reasonable. This is also true for the individual turns. Spiraling down toward zero radius is wasted effort, so keep the turns bunched together. Copper skin depth at 125 KHz is 0.19mm or .0074 inches. Your trace thickness is a fraction of this, so current will occupy the entire cross section. A straightforward way to boost Q under these circumstances is to increase trace thickness. Make the width sufficient to keep average current density within bounds. However, the trace width will be much larger than skin depth, so current will flow preferentially along the edges of the trace. This is where most of the I^2R loss will occur and it will be higher than that of a uniform distribution. When designing the turns, keep the ratio of width to pitch between 0.7 and 0.8. Too close increases proximity effect losses, too far wastes area. Increasing the width means fewer turns and lower inductance, but the parameter of interest is not inductance per se. The generated field is proportional to NI, the product of turns and current. Design for maximum NI and (within bounds) let L be what it needs to be. This makes the question sort of circular. For a parallel resonant tank circuit, the circulating current is Q times the drive voltage divided by inductor impedance at the driving frequency. Alternatively, the drive current will be that which the inductor alone would draw, divided by Q. The point of maximizing Q is, of course, to let the circulating current do the work while keeping the drive current low. You need to know Q to find I but you need to know I to design the inductor that determines Q. There is a limit to the game. There is a tolerance associated with the resonating capacitor. The inductance and therefore center frequency of your fixed tuned circuit will pull somewhat depending on what metal is nearby. When the resonant peak shifts against the fixed frequency drive you will have correspondingly large changes in opposite directions for drive current and receive amplitude. How much is proportional to Q and there is such a thing as too much. The optimal Q for this application will keep the amplitude within, say, 3 dB of center response after detuning. Since you generally will not control the details of mounting in the field, proximity effects can only be estimated. Play around with the various expected mounting configurations to estimate delta L, factor in the capacitor tolerance to compute delta F, then divide Fcenter by delta F to get your target Q. Anything higher than that is wasted and potentially detrimental to your driver. Of course, too much Q is a good problem to have. The real question is whether the target Q is even possible. If not, then driver capability is the main constraint. Orin Laney On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:40:47 -0700 (PDT) axel stein <stein_axel@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Hi all, > I am looking into increasing inductance and the Q factor of the > antenna for an RFID tag. The antenna is etched on a printed circuit > board. The antenna is a planar coil, the conductor is basically > rectangular shape (some slight taper at the edges) and the traces > are wounded in a rectangular shape with rounded edges. > For sure, increasing the number of windings will increase L. But how > will L and Q react, if I widen the lines (line-to-line pitch > constant = reducing spacing, keeping all other parameters constant, > ) or if I increase the copper thickness (perpendicular to the PCB > surface). > > Unfortunately, I do not have a 3D solver that can help me answering > these questions. Anyone out there, that can give me some feedback? > > Thanks for your help, > axel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject > field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Want to work all of your life? 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