Hello , thanks very much Now i have find my mistake is a 'syntax error ' which causing the *terminal error* , and the code can normaly runing .But another thing occurs ,the simulate have 'timestep too small ' error ,so i have to change some options ,fortunately i got the result. The topology i want to simulate is a edgecouple line which is a far-end cluster, below is my code , what problem will it be have ?? Another problem: if i want to simulate a 2.5g trace,how to extract the parameter and how to segment the line , appreciate for all advices. ---------------------------------------------------------------- main ckt * * xline TXOP TXON RXIP1 RXIN1 RXIP2 RXIN2 0 +line_cross * * .option method=gear .option accura .options delmax=10ps .options LVLTIM=1 .op .tran 50ps 51.44n -------------------------------------------------- .SUBCKT line_cross in1 in2 out11 out12 out21 out22 0 rsr1 in1 node1 0.0001 rsr2 in2 node2 0.0001 Wedgecoup1 node1 node2 0 node3 node4 0 + FSmodel= inner_layer_2c N=2 l=4200mil rdumb1 node3 node31 0.01 rdumb2 node4 node41 0.01 rdumb3 node3 node32 0.01 rdumb4 node4 node42 0.01 Wedgecoup2 node31 node41 0 node5 node6 0 + FSmodel= inner_layer_2c N=2 l=4200mil Wedgecoup3 node32 node42 0 node7 node8 0 + FSmodel= inner_layer_2c N=2 l=5600mil rlr1 node5 out11 0.0001 rlr2 node6 out12 0.0001 rlr3 node7 out21 0.0001 rlr4 node8 out22 0.0001 **** end circuit network here **** ********** W element define ******************** .MATERIAL diel1_fr4 DIELECTRIC ER = 4.5 lOSSTANGENT = 0.021 .MATERIAL copper METAL CONDUCTIVITY= 5.8e+07 * Conductor crossection shapes .SHAPE rect_in RECTANGLE WIDTH=6mil, HEIGHT=1.37mil ******** Dielectric stack-up ************* .LAYERSTACK bp_Stack_inn + LAYER = (copper, 1.37mil) + LAYER = (diel1_fr4,6.5mil) + LAYER = (diel1_fr4,20.0mil) + LAYER = (copper, 1.37mil) * Field-solver options .FSOPTIONS opt1 GRIDFACTOR=2 PRINTDATA=YES +ComputeRo=yes ComputeRs=yes +ComputeGo=yes ComputeGd=yes ************ model defintion ********************* .MODEL inner_layer_2c W ModelType=FieldSolver + LAYERSTACK= bp_Stack_inn + FSOptions=opt1 + RLGCFILE = FS_inn_2c.RLGC + CONDUCTOR = (SHAPE=rect_in, ORIGIN=(0mil ,7.87mil), MATERIAL = copper ) + CONDUCTOR = (SHAPE=rect_in, ORIGIN=(12mil,7.87mil), MATERIAL = copper ) .ENDS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Best regards, qzheng mailto:qzheng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu