And I also give him the benefit of the doubt that his peer all have free version of HSPICE and he tries to get his own free version. ________________________________ From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Srivats Partha Sent: Sun 8/26/2007 4:20 PM To: steve weir Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: hi Hello Steve With all respect to you, I want to differ with your opinion. In a public forum like this it is not the best practice to humiliate someone whos new to this field. I feel in a public forum like this we could have given the benefit of doubt to Jagaveer. Yes as you said he may be lying, but what if its a genuine question? There is a small probability it could be true. I definitely think ignorance could be a cause for Jagaveers question. Thats the reason we have a forum like this to eliminate ignorance and educate people.I hope Chris understands this. Regards Srivats -- -- I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious. AE ----- Original Message ---- From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> To: vats123@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Chris.Cheng@xxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:09:39 PM Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: hi Srivats, I fully agree with Chris' harsh criticism of jagaveer25. I don't see jagaveer25 as naive at all. Plug HSPICE into Google and Synopsys' entry pops up. Run HSPICE such as from a server at the university and the copyright notice pops up. Plug SPICE and free into Google and lots of freeware entries pop-up. Jagaveer25 didn't ask for a link to an imagined freeware distribution of HSPICE. He asked someone to upload a copy. I don't know of any freeware distribution that doesn't sit on easy to find servers. I find it impossible to reconcile these facts with jagaveer25's story. His tale just seems a clumsy lie. Would you feel OK if jagaveer25 came around asking for help stealing your work product or other property? Regards, Steve. Srivats Partha wrote: > Hello Gurus > I apologize .This is specifically meant for our "Super Brilliant Pal" Chris > Cheng. > Chris let me ask you a question? > Do you know why oscillations are observed in high speed SiGe BJT'S during > break down(CEO) measurements when put under a TLP? > > I bet my bottom dollar you wont be able to answer it. You could google all > your life using yur super sized brain. > > But i would never ever call you "DUMB" for not knowing this. Just that you > have never been exposed to this kind of work. That doesnt warrant me to call > yu a dumb guy. Everybody cannot know everything. > > I had tons of respect for this forum. But the answers provided by people > like Chris are totally uncalled for. How dare yu call someone dumb? > > In India Signal Integrity is a nascent field. People dont know what softwares > are proprietary? So its the duty of the people in a form like this to tell > people whats proprietary and whats not? Why make fun of someone? After all > everyone wants to learn. People are approaching this group becoz of the > presence of so many experts. Why should there be so much of EGO? I think > these answers will prevent new people in the SI field from asking questions. > Dosent that kill the whole purpose of a form like this. > > > Regards > Sri > > -- > > > -- > I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious. AE > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chris Cheng <Chris.Cheng@xxxxxxxx> > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:26:20 PM > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: hi > > For that I give you > http://lachschon.gamigo.de/screens/200507/gegenaggro-1120742457.jpg > Thanks and regards. > > ________________________________ > > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of jagaveer25 > Sent: Fri 8/24/2007 10:12 PM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] hi > > > > hi folks > > am in new this field > somebody told HSPICE best tool for ciruit simulation and free ware > also thatswhat am asking . i don't know that is licensed version . now > only i know this detail from ur guys ok thank u for kind of > information. > > > Thanks and Regards > > V.jagaveer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net <http://www.si-list.net/> > <http://www.si-list.net/> > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net <http://www.si-list.net/> > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better Heartthrob. 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