[SI-LIST] Re: f-domain to t-domain simulation

  • From: "ron@xxxxxxxxxxx" <ron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Michael Rose <mrose@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:02:45 -0700

Hi Michael

Yes and No.

The phenomonon is real.  If you expect what you see to be real impedance the
answer is no.   On a real differential TDR this effect is seen, so 
transforming frequency
domain data to TDR response requires this same voltage rise.

I skirt the whole issue by adjusting assumed models in ADS to measured TDR
data and when they match each element can be seperately examined.

Ron Miller



Michael Rose wrote:

>When I convert a f-domain channel to differential t-params (TDD11), I
>notice the impedance rising along a transmission line segment as if the
>tline is predominantly inductive. This tends to bias the impedance
>higher for features towards the far end. The single-ended f-domain
>channel includes the normal 50 ohm terminations. Is this a real
>phenomena? How is it explained?
>
>Thanks. Mike  
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