[SI-LIST] Re: ePlanner(Scratchpad)/XTK from Innoveda
- From: "k EPD" <epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bill_hargin@xxxxxxxxxxx, arap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 19:06:49 -0500
Brian,
Take a look at NVPlanner - and use hyperlynx as the back simulation engine,
my solution is cheaper!
see
www.nvplanner.com[1]
Keith Kowal 781-593-0199 epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx[2] www.nvplanner.com[3]
>From: "Hargin, Bill" >Reply-To: bill_hargin@xxxxxxxxxxx >To:
"'arap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" ,"[SI-LIST]" >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re:
ePlanner(Scratchpad)/XTK from Innoveda >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:49:55 -0800
>>>Hi Brian: >>>For one of our modules, we have a CAD house that uses
PowerPCB and a = >>design >>organization that uses OrCAD. =A0 For another
module, we also have a = >>design >>organization that uses Design
Capture/Expedition from Mentor. >>Our SI = >>tools >>are
ePlanner(Scratchpad)/XTK from Innoveda (which is now Mentor). >>A lot of
goodoptions in this thread ... One other solution that wasn't mentioned may
be the easiest of all. >>INPUT FORMATS: >- OrCAD/PADS >- Mentor
DC/Expedition>>OUTPUTS: >- ePlanner Scratchpad >- XTK (although I'm not
clearwhat version you have; you mentioned a "limited" version) >>POSSIBLE
SOLUTION: >- HyperLynx BoardSim, which will read in a PADS or Expediton
database, and includes a handy export routine for both ePlanner and XTK,
including setting up XTK's ISF and QNF files. If all you need is
"middleware," BoardSim may be the easiest go-between for the tools
mentioned.Additionally, you may find that you like it for simulation, as
well. >>There's a new HyperLynx 7.0 demo on the Web that would allow you to
check it out: www.mentor.com/hyperlynx >>Best Regards, >Bill Hargin >Mentor
Graphics Corp. >High-Speed Tools >425-497-5079 - Direct >>>-----Original
Message----- >>From: Tadashi Arai [mailto:arap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>Sent:
Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:32 PM >>To: [SI-LIST] >>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re:
ePlanner(Scratchpad)/XTK from Innoveda >>>>>>>>Howdy, >>>>>It is also
possible to bring an Orcad design into ePlanner >>using the EDIF >>>format,
but I have only looked at it and not actually done it. >>>>ePlanner can eat
schematic only from ViewDraw, ConceptHDL, or >>DesignArchtect. But if you
have latest version of OrCAD >>Capture, it has >>capability to export
ConceptHDL-compatible output via Tools | Create >>Netlist | Allegro. >>I
tried, however, and found it is hard job for me, because I need to
>>"sanitize" my schematics and databases for creating consistent output.
>>>>BTW, >>ePlanner have got ability of post-layout simulation in latest
release. >>It (is said to) works with PowerPCB, which you also need latest
one. >>I have not tried yet, how does another think ? >>And... how about us
talking such "tool-specific" topic, we >>have another >>list, "hypertalk" ,
and it is quiet... >>>>Good luck. >>>>On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:38:22 -0800
>>Alan Hilton-Nickel wrote: >>>>>>>>Hi Brian, >>>>>>You're not too likely to
use Scratchpad to do post-layout analysis. >>>Scratchpad is more of a
theoretical, what-if tool for >>making decisions based >>>on an abstract
transmission line model. >>>>>>You'll need to use XTK for post-layout
analysis. For >>prelayout, the correct >>>tool for the job is ePlanner,
whichcan be used to impose >>and manage layout >>>constraints. >>>>>>I
suggest you talk with the Mentor/Innoveda folks, but they >>have utilities
>>>to convert PowerPCB and Mentor files to XTK's ISF and QNF >>formats for
post >>>layout analysis. Those tools can also bring a board layout file into
>>>ePlanner. If the design is already laid out I can't see >>that being
useful, >>>but if there is no or only partial routing then this is
>>something you'll >>>want to do. >>>>>>It is also possible to bring an
Orcaddesign into ePlanner >>using the EDIF >>>format, but I have only looked
at it and not actually done it. >>>>>>Good luck, >>>>>>Alan Hilton-Nickel
>>>NVIDIA Corp. >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Aspnes, Brian D
[mailto:brian.d.aspnes@xxxxxxxxx] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:58 PM
>>>>To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Subject: [SI-LIST]
ePlanner(Scratchpad)/XTKfrom Innoveda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For one of our
modules,we have a CAD house that uses >>PowerPCB and a = >>>>design
>>>>organization that uses OrCAD. =A0 For another module, we >>also have a =
>>>>design >>>>organization that uses Design Capture/Expedition from Mentor.
>>>>Our SI = >>>>tools >>>>are ePlanner(Scratchpad)/XTK from Innoveda (which
is now >>Mentor). =20 >>>>>>>>I'm looking for something that can take the
databases from the two >>>>organizations and pull the CAD data into
Scratchpad and >>run some SI >>>>simulations with a common database. Given a
PowerPCB file >>>>(either .asc = >>>>or >>>>.pcb) or the OrCAD file (.dsn,
etc.), does anyone know of >>any tools = >>>>that are >>>>available to get
the "post layout" net information from >>>>OrCAD/PowerPCB = >>>>into
>>>>Mentor's Scratchpad (ePlanner/XTK from Innoveda) for SI >>>>simulations?
= >>>>Is >>>>there a solution for Design Capture/Expedition? I believe
>>>>that XTK can = >>>>do >>>>this, but I'm wondering about
ePlanner/Scratchpad because we >>>>don't have >>>>enough of the XTK full
licenses. =20
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