Yun, In my opinion the guard trace makes a good bandpass filter. If you have space to put guard trace, the best thing will be not to put any guard trace and give more spacing to avoid cross talk. Let us see what other experts say. Ibrahim -----Original Message----- From: yun [mailto:yunnan@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:57 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] doubt about crosstalk. Hi, I encounted some doubt about crosstalk,hope someone can help me. 1.about ground guard line. To reduce long coplanar parellel's crosstalk,we can place a ground guard line between them. On my opinion,however,the ground guard line can only terminate the electric filed,it has no influnce on magnetic filed.As we know,the forward crosstalk nearly canceled because the negative polarity of electric filed couple and magnetic filed couple.So, the forward crosstalk will be larger when use=20 the ground guard line than not use the ground guard line. 2.back to back return current crosstalk. The pcb layer configuration is sig1-gnd-sig2(just for describe question),then,both sig1 and sig2 layer's return currents will all on the same gnd layer.We know that the return currents will creat crosstalk on signal lines.So,will these return currents,created by each side of gnd layer,crosstalk? Thanks. yun ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu