I think that this is a very tool centric thing. You are making timing measurements and not effecting the SI of the waveform and different tools provide different ways to make those measurements. In XTK, for instance, you don't really specify the Vmeas at all but the actual delay time you want to use (which we called TIME TO VM) and I am sure other tools have a similar function. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of SI Eng Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:52 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] different Vmeas for Rising/Falling Gurus : I'm wondering how to account for different Vmeas points for Falling vs. Rising edges when doing timing calculations. IBIS only specifies a single Vmeas point, and ICX doesn't provide an extension for this. I don't know about XTK or the other tools. The SI tools will report delays based upon the worst-case for Rising and Falling edges referenced to the same Vmeas point. This result is incorrect for the edge with the wrong Vmeas. Does the measurement have to be done manually in this case (i.e waveform delta) ? Thanks, Douglas ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu