Thanks a lot for everybody's feedback. ma - -- "Hargin, Bill" <bill_hargin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > A nice materials paper by Rick Hartley is up on Lee > Ritchey's site: > www.speedingedge.com/PDF-Files/Materials_RickH2.pdf=20 > > This sparked my curiosity, so I looked it up... > > Loss > Er Tangent > Nelco 4000-13 3.7 0.01 > Nelco 4000-13SI 3.5 0.009 > Isola IS620 3.7 0.0089 > > Almost looks like a wash, from a loss tangent > standpoint. Isola's Er, > by the way, is 3.7 not 3.5, so the difference you're > seeing is probably > due to the lower dielectric constant. =20 > > There's a good Rick Hartley article on this subject > (though it doesn't > mention Isola, per se) on Lee Ritchey's Website: > http://www.speedingedge.com/PDF-Files/Materials_RickH2.pdf > > Bill Hargin > Product Manager - HyperLynx > Mentor Graphics Corp. > 425-497-5079 - Direct > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Tom Dagostino > > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:12 PM > > To: sitaskina@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: dielectric material-Isola > IS620=20 > >=20 > > I don't know the numbers but I'll bet the losses > are lower in=20 > > the Nelco material. > >=20 > > Tom Dagostino > > Teraspeed Labs > > 13610 SW Harness Lane > > Beaverton, OR 97008 > > 503-430-1065 > > http://www.teraspeed.com > > tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >=20 > > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > > 121 North River Drive > > Narragansett, RI 02882 > > 401-284-1827 > >=20 > > Teraspeed is the registered service mark of > Teraspeed=20 > > Consulting Group LLC > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > ma mu > > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:06 PM > > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [SI-LIST] dieclectric material-Isola > IS620 > >=20 > >=20 > > Hi all, > >=20 > > I have a question, why Isola IS620 is cheaper( 1/2 > price)=20 > > than nelco4000-13 , although the dielectric > constant( 3.5) is=20 > > kind of same . > >=20 > > ma > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --------------------------------- > > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > > Yahoo! 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