Hello Hermann, 3Dmark is running during the test and I am changing the VrefCa and Vref DQ externally. Thanks. Regards Mustafa From: Hermann Ruckerbauer [mailto:hermann.ruckerbauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: Mustafa Özgür TUTUM Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] ddr3 vref margin test Hello Mustafa, I have also seen some tests passing independent of the Vref. I guess you checked e. g. by introducing some Single fails e. g. by trying to isolate one pin during runtime ? VREF DQ and VREF CA are seperated on the SO-DMMs. Do you talk about Vref CA or VREF DQ ? One reason i have seen is a Memory test that is not really efficient in doing interface testing (e. g. running in the cache most of the time, ..). Which test are you using ? Regards Hermann EKH - EyeKnowHow Hermann Ruckerbauer www.EyeKnowHow.de Hermann.Ruckerbauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Veilchenstrasse 1 94554 Moos Tel.: +49 (0)9938 / 902 083 Mobile: +49 (0)176 / 787 787 77 Fax: +49 (0)3212 / 121 9008 schrieb Mustafa Özgür TUTUM: Hi, We are designing intel pine m platform notebooks with ddr3 support. When I have performing voltage margin test, I have noticed that DDR3 Vref value can be between 0 and 1.5V. In our previous designs with DDR2, voltage levels were between 0.3-0.5V at low side and 1.1-1.4V at high sideand margins were 0.5-1.2. I couldnot comment these results for ddr3? Can you help me? What is the wrong? Thanks. Best Regards Mustafa Dogayla Dost Teknoloji Vestel, hepimizin cevreye daha duyarli olmasini ve e-posta ciktisi almadan once bir kez daha dusunmenizi rica ediyor. / Vestel, your nature-friendly technology provider, kindly encourages you to consider our planet Earth before printing this email. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2898 - Release Date: 05/26/10 20:26:00 Dogayla Dost Teknoloji Vestel, hepimizin cevreye daha duyarli olmasini ve e-posta ciktisi almadan once bir kez daha dusunmenizi rica ediyor. / Vestel, your nature-friendly technology provider, kindly encourages you to consider our planet Earth before printing this email. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu