Hi All, I am simulating a simple ungrounded cpw in hfss.The cpw is on a 0.5 micron thick oxide on a low resistivity silicon substrate(1.5-2 ohm-cm).The length of the cpw is 650 microns and it's configuration is 100/50/100.The cpw characteristic impedance is not 50 ohms.(HFSS gives zpi = 12ohms). After simulation hfss gives results in terms of s-parameters and zo and gamma. I realize that the real part of gamma will give me the propogation loss, and as the cpw is on a lossy substrate I get a high value of alpha (526.5 np/m ie 4.573 db/mm at 5 ghz) which is understandable. I also get a value of s21 as -3.547 db at 5 Ghz. My question is "Is there a relation between the values of alpha and s21? What do the values of alpha and s21 signify? How can I calculate the insertion loss in the line.". By definition insertion loss is "power delivered to matched load divided by power applied at input", but since the cpw does not have a characteristic 50 ohm impedance, will the value of s21 expressed in db equal to insertion loss, when I measure this structure on a network analyzer. Thanks in advance. Kaustubh. PS:I realize that some folks may think this email would be more appropriate for an AE of hfss. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu