On Jan 17, 2005, at 1:37 AM, kobik74 wrote: > > Hi gurus > > How do you specify to the PCB manufacturer the controlled impedance > requirements > > Except the layer stack up, layer thickness (oz), board thickness and > text that define the controlled impedance for signals in each layer > do you also define the PCB material type (Er, Silkscreen, Solder > =85), inner dielectric thickness or you trust the manufacturer to > reach the controlled impedance? You have to be careful not to over-specify. Usually you supply a "proposed" stack-up and let the vendor come back with a design that accommodates the materials to be used. For example, Er is very sensitive to glass/resin ratio in thin layers. You don't know what that is. Info you supply is: Layer stack-up Desired board thickness (not more than 8X-10X the diameter of your smallest vias) Design trace width for each layer and the impedance you expect that to give Cosmetic items, such as silkscreen, solder mask, solder thieving If you have to specify everything exactly, you probably have the wrong PCB vendor. > > How much tolerance do you permit? +/-10% is usually economical and satisfactory; per H Johnson, the signal overshoot is no worse than 1/2 the mismatch. Larry Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu