Hi, Out of curiousity, I downloaded a mosis TSMC 0.25u model file from their web-site. http://www.mosis.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/umosis/swp/params/tsmc-025/t43b_lo_epi-params.txt I have access to Hspice I have also been using the freely available berkley spice from University of California. I find a huge discrepancy between the two tools from the outputs, using the same model file on an inverter. This is my inverter netlist Xinvx05 in z invx05 Rtest Z out 10 Ctest out 0 10ff .meas tran delay_0 trig v(in) val=0.5 rise=1 targ v(out) val=0.5 rise=0 Delay_0 from hspice is 164ps Delay_0 from spice3f5 is 146ps The mosis model says that its compatible with both level 8 and level 49. To make it work with spice3f5, I had to change the level to level 8 and also remove the following parameters. +XL = 0 XW = -4E-8 I ran hspice again after removing the above parameters, but it made very little difference the result. Am I missing something here? Thank you for your responses.. Uday __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu