[SI-LIST] Re: Why shielded twisted-pair is still twisted?

  • From: Richard Feldman <Richard.Feldman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "colin_warwick@xxxxxxxxxxx" <colin_warwick@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "neoflash2008@xxxxxxxxx" <neoflash2008@xxxxxxxxx>, "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:38:35 -0700

Also importantly:
Since there are multiple pairs within a common shield,
twisting each pair (with a unique pitch) greatly reduces
differential-mode crosstalk between pairs. 

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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Why shielded twisted-pair is still twisted? 

Hi Neo,

I think the original motivation for twisting was in audio telephony 
applications to cancel low frequency hum (e.g. 60 Hz or 50 Hz) from EM fields 
from AC power wires. For a uniform field, the EMF from the flux threading 
through alternate half twists cancels out. Without the twist, the EMF from the 
flux component perpendicular to the plane of a twin ax would add up.

Shielding (if any) doesn't keep low frequency EM fields out because the skin 
depth of copper is ~1 cm, so an economical viable shield is too thin to block 
it.

hth

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Behalf Of Neo
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 6:41 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Why shielded twisted-pair is still twisted? 

Hi,
I'm thinking about why shielded twisted-pair is still twisted? 
Pair is twisted for controlled distance/impedance (due to twist) and for x-talk 
reduction. If a pair is already shielded together, it is not necessary to twist 
them any more. 
Without twist, it will be equivalent to twin-ax cable, isn't that better?
Thanks,Neo

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