> In the 2 probe differential measurement case, why did the spikes appear > when the probes' tips were shorted? It only happened when the shorted > tips were in contact with the board, not in the air. This method of making differential measurements is never perfect, partly because of differences between the two probes and their scope channels. With the probes floating, both probes picked up no signal so the difference between two nothings was still nothing. When connected to "ground", they each had signal, which might cancel if everything was perfectly matched across all frequencies. > In the grounded tip case, how did the spikes appear on the 'scope when > they should have been eliminated by the ground lead? By connecting the shorted scope probe to the board's "ground", you are adding another path for current to take, through the probe leads back to the scope and power ground. This current induces the spiky signal you could see. Doug Smith probably has some notes about this on his website (www.emcesd.com). Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu