As Steve says - it depends. Many XAUI style output drivers use majority passive termination to positive= supply. By connecting the output nods to gnd you'll be bypassing the curre= nt control stage and starve it. Most nodes should survive with the (usually) 50 Ohms between rails for shor= t times. Most will meet the hot plug protection rules. Long times on smalle= r feature sizes could permanently damage the die due to the high electro-mi= gration. Depends on the design/linewidths. ESD doesn't tend to catch these = events unless spikes at insertion/removal occur as well. But assumed you me= ant a DC short. "short" or "terminate"? - big difference naturally. Short will likely kill the signals, risks damage over time, terminate will = likely give collapsed swing at best. Regards, Richard -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On= Behalf Of steve weir Sent: 09 July 2008 21:43 To: liuluping 41830 Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; wangyongjin@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: What will happen when short the SERDES IO to GND? The answer depends on the specific driver design. If it is a CML driver as is common, the pull-up will heat up more than usual. Whether that is a problem or not depends on how the IC mfg sized the pull-up. Steve. liuluping 41830 wrote: > Dear all : > > What will happen when short the working SERDES IO,e.g.XAUI, without = AC capacitor to GND ? > Will the ESD circuit working to prevent chip damaging?Are there any pape= rs related to this problem? > > Thanks and Regards, > > LIU Luping > > > ***************************************************************** > This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUA= WEI, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is liste= d above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way (including,= but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemin= ation) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If yo= u receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by phone or em > ail immediately and delete it! > ***************************************************************** > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > -- Steve Weir Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 California office (866) 675-4630 Business (707) 780-1951 Fax Main office (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax Oregon office (503) 430-1065 Business (503) 430-1285 Fax http://www.teraspeed.com This e-mail contains proprietary and confidential intellectual property of = Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------- Teraspeed(R) is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group L= LC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu