Lee, did you mean August 2004? Joel's piece can be found on the 3M web site. http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?6666660Zjcf6lVs6EVs66S73jCOrrrrQ-#search=%22%22printed%20circuit%20design%22%20%2B%22the%20history%20of%20embedded%22%22 Regards, Steve. At 11:34 AM 9/4/2006, Lee Ritchey wrote: >There was an article in the August 03 issue of Printed Circuit Design >magazine titled "The History of Embedded Distributed Capacitance," by Jole >Pfeiffer of 3M showing that the patents held by Sanmina-SCI are invalid due >to the existance of both prior art and prior patents. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Andresakis, John <John.Andresakis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Gilles Aminot <aminotg@xxxxxxx>; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ><si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 8/30/2006 8:45:29 PM > > Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] What is the acceptable minimum pre-preg thickness >for volume manufacturing? > > > > Gilles, > > > > Depending on the copper weight and the area of copper retained, you can >use > > lower than 4 mils. The situation is that Sanmina has a patent for >forming a > > capacitor plane in-situ, which is what you are trying to do. It makes no > > difference whether you purchase a 2 mil core or use 2 mil prepreg between >a > > power and ground plane during pressing, it still is covered by patents. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > John Andresakis > > Oak-Mitsui Technologies > > (518) 686-8088 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gilles Aminot > > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: 8/30/2006 10:44 PM > > Subject: [SI-LIST] What is the acceptable minimum pre-preg thickness for > > volume manufacturing? > > > > Hi All, > > Is there a PCB guru out there who can tell me what is the minimum > > recommended pre-preg thickness for volume manufacturing? I want to > > increase inter-plane capacitance by reducing the pre-preg thicnkess > > between my power and ground planes. Currently we are using a pre-preg > > thickness of 4mils. I did some research and found that pre-preg comes in > > thicknesses as low as 2mils. Can we go as low as 2mils between planes on > > an FR-4 PCB designed for RoHS compliance and still have a board which > > can be reliably built in high volume? > > > > Thanks in advance for your replies. > > > > Kindest Regards, > > Gilles Aminot > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.org > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > >List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu