Ill agree with Gary on this one. We have had good success with Tungsten = tips on Al pads. Jason > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Otonari [mailto:garyo@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:58 AM > To: mike_bihan@xxxxxxxxxxxx; frankb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: 'List` Si' > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Wafer probing on Al pads >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Standard Beryllium-Copper tips are great for durability, but=20 > don't work well on Al pads. We use Tungsten tip probes for=20 > this application. GGB sells their popular 40A probes in both=20 > BeCu and Tungsten: www.ggb.com >=20 > -- Gary Otonari >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bi Han > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:25 PM > To: frankb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: List` Si > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Wafer probing on Al pads >=20 >=20 >=20 > We have the same problem. > Cascade will deliver the "infinity probe" in 2 months to us.=20 > Theoratically, it should have good performance. I have=20 > another concern that whether the novel probe will be damaged=20 > easily? Averagly, how many times can this kind of probe if =20 > it is properly used? B.H. >=20 > Brian Frank <frankb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm doing on-wafer measurements of 10-20 GHz silicon=20 > circuits. I've found that the repeatability of the=20 > measurements is poor due to aluminum oxide formation on the pads. >=20 > Cascade Microtech and Karl Suss both offer probes which they=20 > claim work well with aluminum pads (the Infinity Probe, and=20 > the "Z" probe, respectively). Does anyone have experience=20 > with either of these probes, or have other suggestions for=20 > other suitable wafer probes? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Brian >=20 > -- > B. Frank, P.Eng. > Assistant Professor > Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering > Tel: 613.533.3063 |||| F: 613.533.6615 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >=20 > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to:=20 > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >=20 > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >=20 > List archives are viewable at:=20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives:=20 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at:=20 http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? "=D1=C5=BB=A2=BD=DA=C8=D5=B4=F3=D7=AA=C5=CC=BE=AA=CF=B2=B2=BB=B6=CF = =BF=EC=C0=D6=BD=DA=C8=D5=BA=C3=C0=F1=C1=AC=C1=AC!" ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu