Chris, The papers I recently posted on measuring the emissions from printed circuit boards described how to minimize the cable radiation in this kind of experiment. If you're interested I can send you the references. Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: charles.grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Email Alternate: chasgrasso@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Brown, Mike (Austin, TX) [mailto:mibrown@xxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:53 AM To: chris_landrum@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Wacky power plane impedance measurements Sounds like you have signal current on the outside of the coax shield, = perhaps. Try a ferrite on both coax cables, very near the board under = test. Mike -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Landrum, Chris Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:03 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Wacky power plane impedance measurements Hi all, I am running an experiment where I am attempting to measure the power = plane impedance of a PCB. The PCB is only populated with capacitors. I am = using a spectrum analyzer to plot the freq response. I have two pieces of 50 Ohm shielded cable where I have cut the ends to expose the shield and the = center conductor. I have then soldered the shield to a large cap at GND and the conductor to the other side of the cap at PWR. I have done the same for = the second cable at some arbitray distance from cable #1.=20 I have noticed that my measurement is EXTREMELY sensitive to cable = movement. The results will also change when I simply touch the N-type adapter of = the SA. I am sure there is a good connection to the PCB, as I have wire tied = the cable to the PCB so as not to allow movement at the points of contact. = The cables may be approx 2ft in length (matched), and I have tried shorter lengths with the same result. I have also tried higher quality cables.=20 Is this result due to coupling? Has anyone performed such a measurement without the varying result? Perhaps someone who has can describe their set-up.=20 Thanks. Chris=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu