Hello, Unni, Surely the load is specified for "design constraint of 500ps transition time"? A good place for general information on timing test loads would be the interface specifications for the buffers in the I/O library. Some timing test specs use a capacitive load. Some use a resistive load. Others, such as LVDS, use both. It might be helpful to talk to TSMC application engineers. Do customers need capacitive-equivalent timing tables, for example for chip-level synthesis (I/O acting as receiver)? Are capacitive-equivalent timing tables needed for I/O acting as drivers? What load is used for the "clk-to-Q" timing for the datasheet? In the past, I have found it helpful talk to someone in the test lab. They can be very helpful in explaining what their capabilities are for chip testing, particularly the types of I/O test loads their test equipment can handle. Having at least one simulation at that same load can help with SPICE model validation. Best regards, Lynne "IBIS training when you need it, where you need it." Dr. Lynne Green Green Streak Programs http://www.greenstreakprograms.com 425-788-0412 lgreen22@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Unni Gangadharan Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:25 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Transition time constraint for TSMC 0.18 design Hi, Currently I am working on a 0.18um TSMC design that is meeting timing and a month and a half away from tape-out. There is a request for adding an overall design constraint of 500ps transition time. Presently, the library is characterized for up to 2ns range. The frequency is 100MHz. With the library default transition number the chip has worst case 1.5ns transition time. With a .5ns transition time the area blows up by 15%. Typically what are the design constraints we should set in terms of capacitance and transition on the signals? Any information regarding this query would be highly appreciated. -Thanks Unni ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu