Dear Cortex, I am not the author of design guide and designer of PCI-E add-in card. I try to answer your question. The purpose of the guide for removing reference plane under edge finger pads is for better impedance control. In the gold finger area, the spacing is tipically spreading. In my opinion, that is why the design guide recommended to remove the reference plane. Accordingly, the thickness is increased and achieve better impedance control. However, if you can keep good impedance control, I don't think you have to follow the design. Totally speaking, design guide is just a "guide". Hope it is helpful. Sogo Hsu, Ph. D Foxconn --- In si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Cortex Chen" <Cortex.Chen@xxxx> wrote: > Dear SI experts, > I'm working to design a FB-DIMM add-in card. To recall previous experiences for PCI-E, I'm confused why it's recommended to remove reference planes under the gold finger areas of an add-in card. In detail, refer to section 2.3.2.6 (page 28 ~ 29) of PCI Express Design Guide (rev. no, 0.5, 12978). Who can tell me what the main reason is? > > By the way, refer to section 6.11.10 (page 417 ~ 418) from Howard Johnson's new book, I like to quote some sentences for your reference as below: > "......In a differential-pcb pair, most of the returning current from each trace still flows on the solid plane, not the other trace, because each differential trace couples much more strongly to the big, solid nearby plane than it does to its little, skinny differential buddy....". > > If it's true, then it will cause some effects like "Differential U- Turn"? > Please give me your comments. > > Thanks & Sincerely > > Cortex Chen =B3=AF=A5=C3=AAN > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu