In a message dated 9/10/01 4:04:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, hali@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Some folks claim that loose coupling is better because it results in less > reflection due to intra-pair trace spacing changes (hence impedance > mismatches) in connector pin fields, in device break-out area and associated > vias. You didn't say much about that. Just wondering, have you ever > quantified that particular reflection effect? > > Around the same impedance matching issue, is it not the case that in some > applications there is a need to tightly match both single-ended and > differential impedances? If that is the case, is it then always right that > tight coupling is better than loose coupling? > Ali: First item: Where the trace pairs split upon entering the connector pin fields, there are two options; viz, the traces can be widened to maintain the differential impedance or the trace width can be maintained and balanced against the parasitic capacitance of the pin through-hole to achieve Zo continuity. For critical (>2 GBPS) lines, I combine both techniques in the pin field, depending on how far the penetration into the field. This takes a reasonable modeling effort to accomplish, but I like to make SI a "non-issue" for cutting-edge designs. Second item: Unfortunately, one invariably gets into trouble by assuming anything is "always right." I have found that maintaining the accuracy of the differential impedance is most beneficial for CML systems. For complimentary, single-ended logic systems, the clocks are generally (inherently) slower because the unbalanced technology is more susceptible to parasitics, unequal transition slew rates, induced supply ripple, etcetera. As a consequence, the tight matching of even and odd impedances you question above is of less importance. If you are pushing to the higher speeds, I recommend you look to balanced CML technology which better tolerates fluctions in even-mode signals and responds more accurately to the differential signal. Mike Michael L. Conn Owner/Principal Consultant Mikon Consulting (408)727-5697 *** Serving Your Needs with technical Excellence *** ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu