Hi all: This morning, I do some crosstalk simulation. I find something interesting. The following is what I do. 1. Create diffline.rlgc from rlgc.sp 2. Calculate the Z_diff and Z_comm from diffline.rlgc 3. Match the diffline and simulate it by match_2.sp I find the near end crosstalk and the far end crosstalk are equal. This is not same to the general crosstalk theory. I want to know why. rlgc.sp .OPTION PROBE POST VIMPULSE in1 gnd PULSE 0v 5v 5n 2n 2n 20n W1 in1 in2 gnd out1 out2 gnd FSmodel=cond2_sys N=2 l=1000mil Rin2 in2 gnd 49 Rout1 out1 gnd 49 Rout2 out2 gnd 49 .MATERIAL diel DIELECTRIC ER=4.5 .SHAPE rect RECTANGLE WIDTH=7mil, HEIGHT=2mil, .LAYERSTACK stack1, +LAYER=(PEC,20mil), LAYER=(diel,22mil), +LAYER=(PEC,20mil) .FSOPTIONS opt1 PRINTDATA=YES .MODEL cond2_sys W MODELTYPE=FieldSolver, +LAYERSTACK=stack1, FSOPTIONS=opt1 +RLGCFILE=diffline.rlgc +CONDUCTOR=(SHAPE=rect, ORIGIN=(0,30mil)), +CONDUCTOR=(SHAPE=rect, ORIGIN=(14mil,30mil)) .TRAN 0.5n 100n .PROBE v(out1) .END diffline.sp *SYSTEM_NAME : cond2_sys * * ------------------------------------ Z = 0.0015748 * //// Top Ground Plane ////////////// * ------------------------------------ Z = 0.0010668 * diel H = 0.0005588 * ------------------------------------ Z = 0.000508 * //// Bottom Ground Plane /////////// * ------------------------------------ Z = 0 * N (number of signal conductors) ********************************* 2 * Lo (H/m) ********************************* 3.42622e-07 6.40120e-08 3.42622e-07 * Co (F/m) ********************************* 1.50678e-10 -2.82540e-11 1.50678e-10 * Ro (Ohms/m) ********************************* 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 * Go (S/m) ********************************* 0.00000e+00 -0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 match_2.sp the simple diff transmissionline .options list node post .op .tran 0.5n 100n *driver vp in1 gnd pulse 0 5 1n 1n 1n 3n 8n *vn in2 gnd pulse 10 0 1n 1n 1n 3n 8n rin2 in2 gnd 47.69 *transmission line Wcable in1 in2 gnd out1 out2 gnd RLGCfile=diffline.rlgc n=2 l=5000mil *receiver rout1 out1 node1 39.4598 rout2 out2 node1 39.4598 rcon node1 gnd 9.0864 .end Z_diff=78.9195 Z_comm=28.8163 rou1=rout2=Z_diff/2 rcon=(2*Z_comm-Z_diff/2)/2 Best Regards Zhangkun 2002.12.06 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu