Another thing to consider with non-monotonic signals, is that it depends on exactly where you measure. In addition to what Rob LaMoreaux said (maybe off-line?) about non-monotonic waveforms at or near a driver, I've seen cases where signals on a point-to-point net were badly mon-monotonic at an IC input pin, but probably not at the die pad inside the IC. SPICE simulations showed this, and the observed waveform was reasonably close to the simulated one at the IC pin. If memory serves, one of these was the input to a PLD in a DIP thru-hole package. Some DRAMs are strange and mysterious beasts and I'd listen to whatever their datasheet says. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu