[SI-LIST] Re: Straw poll and call for comments: Crowdsource IBIS model directory by use of a wiki such as wikipedia?
- From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: colin_warwick@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:09:09 -0700
My view on the usefulness of such a directory all depends on how well
the directory would be maintained / policed and whether the directory
would include information that would indicate the model's likely
usefulness. There are a lot of IBIS ( HSPICE models as well for that
matter ), that aren't particularly useful. Many have not been verified
in any way. Some of them do not even parse.
Anyway, if this is going to be undertaken, I would really like to see
something similar to the way that the FPGA vendors list IP cores.
Target Model Manufacturer
Target Model Part Number
Free or pay model
Model basis: Raw original model, SPICE derived model, Measurement based
model
IBIS version
Passed parser or not w/ parser version
Model verified or not
Link to model, or model supplier
Steve
colin_warwick@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bottom line on top: Any interest in using and/or contributing to an IBIS
> model directory by use of a wiki such as wikipedia? Please vote in this
> informal straw poll:
>
> http://signal-integrity.tm.agilent.com/2010/crowdsource-ibis-models-directory/
>
>
> ...and/or leave a comment there, and/or comment to this thread.
>
> Backstory: I posted the message below to the IBIS lists, but was disappointed
> that the response was fairly mute. So, I'm posting it here in the hope it
> will resonate with si-listers. (If you are also on the IBIS lists, this is a
> duplicate. Sorry!)
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> -- Colin Warwick
> Signal Integrity Product Manager, Agilent EEsof EDA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WARWICK,COLIN
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:59 AM
> To: IBIS-Interconnect; 'ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: Straw poll and call for comments: Crowdsource IBIS model directory
> by use of a wiki such as wikipedia?
>
> Hi,
>
> I get several emails a month from customers asking "Is there an IBIS model
> for XYZ part from ABC IC vendor". I usually point them at:
> http://www.teraspeed.com/ibis_resources.html
> http://www.eigroup.org/ibis/ibis%20table/models.htm
>
> If the info is out-of-date (as is often the case), I ask them to do an
> advanced Google search like:
> http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=IBIS+site:someicvendordomain.com
>
> (replace someicvendordomain.com with the IC vendor's domain, obviously)
>
> But I'm wondering if there's a better way than "spray and pray" Googling or
> burdening a single librarian with hundreds of update requests.
>
> Sooo...How about crowdsourcing?
>
> "Crowd-what-ing," you say? Here's a definition from wikipedia:
>
> 'Crowdsourcing is a neologistic compound of Crowd and Outsourcing for the act
> of taking tasks traditionally performed by an employee or contractor, and
> outsourcing them to a group of people or community, through an "open call" to
> a large group of people (a crowd) asking for contributions.'
> (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdsourcing )
>
> Specifically, I'm wondering if we should create a table off of the main IBIS
> page on wikipedia:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_Output_Buffer_Information_Specification
>
> ...(or some other wiki) for IC vendors to update their info themselves. It
> would look something like this prototype I cobbled together:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Woz2/Input_Output_Buffer_Information_Specification/Table_of_IBIS_models
>
>
> Thoughts? Please vote in this informal straw poll:
>
> http://signal-integrity.tm.agilent.com/2010/crowdsource-ibis-models-directory/
>
>
> and/or leave a comment there, and/or comment to this thread.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -- Colin Warwick
> Signal Integrity Product Manager, Agilent EEsof EDA
>
>
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