Hi Michael, Yes, this feature will be available in Hspice-RF. The beta release for Hspice-RF is scheduled for 12/15/2001. Tracy Barclay Product Support Engineer Avant! Corporation > Avant! guys, > > is this feature planned to be included in the upcoming HSPICE releases? > If yes, what's the estimated release date? > > Thanks, > Michael Gutzmann > Intel Corp. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Smith [mailto:ldsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:56 AM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] S-parameter simulation in Time Domain > > A similar question was asked on SI-list several weeks ago but did not > get a clear answer. Does anybody have a good way to simulate > S-parameters in the time domain? > > We often have silicon driver and receiver models that are composed of > proprietary (BSIM or otherwise) transistor by transistor nonlinear > elements best handled by HSpice, Smart Spice or similar software. We > want to know the openness of an eye diagram at the far end of a > transmission path. The transmission path involves two electronic > packages, printed circuit boards with vias and a connector between > boards. We may have S-parameter models for some of the components and > lumped element models for others. The characteristics of nearly all of > the components are a function of frequency. > > The response to the question several weeks ago involved methods for > obtaining S-parameter models. We can get S-parameter models form > measurement, extraction from materials and geometries, the guy down the > hall or the company across the street. The question is, "what do we do > with the models after we get them?" We want to know the openness of > the eye diagram at 1 GB/sec or more. We want to know the response of a > receiver built from nonlinear circuit elements to that eye diagram. > Does anybody have a good success story in this area? Does anybody have > software that claims to do this? > > Grading scale: > > A - Has model to hardware correlation for eye diagram. > B - Can simulate but does not exactly match lab waveforms. > C - Above, but not with proprietary spice models. > D - Simulator has capability but nobody has ever tried it. > F - Software available in next release. > > regards, > Larry Smith > Sun Microsytems > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu