Kedar, > but in the calculation of the cross talk trace width is not considered > why is it so..........? Trace width is usually not directly included in the crosstalk calculations, but indirectly it IS included. The backward and forward crosstalk coefficients are both calculated from the ratios of mutual capacitance to self capacitance and mutual inductance to self inductance values. Implicitly, the self capacitance and self inductance values carry the information about trace width. For the usual wide-aspect-ratio traces, the primary scaling rule tells us that the characteristic impedance is driven by the ratio of trace width and dielectric height. Similarly, the crosstalk depends on the ratio of spacing and (any of the) trace width or layer height. Since layout is drawn on plane layer, which includes directly the trace width, it is more convenient to draw the rule-of-thumb trace separation values in terms of trace width. Best regards, Istvan Novak SUN Microsystems ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu