Steve, What about temperature? Sisoft uses 100 deg C for slow silicon and 0 C for fast. Vcc together with temperature gives rise to slow silicon or is the temperature independent from Vcc(just another variable)? You can just vary the temperature and the simulator adjusts the speed accordingly? Regards, -Hithesh -----Original Message----- From: steve weir [mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:37 AM To: Nijagunamurthy, Hithesh (GE Intelligent Platforms) Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Slow Silicon, Fast silicon question Yes, increasing supply voltage speeds up CMOS circuits. Changes in trace impedance have several effects: * Changes that result in discontinuities cause reflections which will create pattern dependent timing changes. * Lower trace impedances are less affected by package parasitic capacitance which speeds up transition times at the far-end. You should be matching the channel impedance all the way through. While there are exceptions, it is generally a bad idea to intentionally introduce an impedance discontinuity. Steve Nijagunamurthy, Hithesh (GE Intelligent Platforms) wrote: > In SI simulation there are options for Slow silicon and Fast silicon. > I understand these are due to process variation. But how does the > simulator simulate this. > > In sisoft, for fast Vcc is 1.1*Vcc and for slow 0.9*Vcc > > Does increasing Vcc have the same effect as having a fast silicon? > There's also temperature listed. Does the simulator use a combination > of Temperature and voltage? > > Similarly, for the PCB etch variation - does change in trace impedance > mean change in speed or rise time/fall time? > > Thanks, > -Hithesh > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > -- Steve Weir IPBLOX, LLC 150 N. Center St. #211 Reno, NV 89501 www.ipblox.com (775) 299-4236 Business (866) 675-4630 Toll-free (707) 780-1951 Fax ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu