At 10 Ghz , in gold skin effect depth is 0.7 microns What is the gold plating thickness in ENIG ? On 08-10-2013 07:23, Yuriy Shlepnev wrote: > Bala, > > Yes, you definitely have to consider the properties of the plating materials > too, especially in the case of ENIG plated traces. A broadband model of ENIG > plated traces must include properties of all 3 materials - copper, nickel > and gold. Otherwise the model is not accurate enough for the analysis of > multi-gigabit data channels. > See overview, analysis and experimental data for ENIG plated traces at > Y. Shlepnev, S. McMorrow, Nickel characterization for interconnect analysis. > - Proc. of the 2011 IEEE International Symposium on Electromagnetic > Compatibility, Long Beach, CA, USA, August, 2011, p. 524-529. > The paper is available at IEEE site > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6038368&url=http%3A%2F > %2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6038368 > You can also find the paper and presentation at www.kb.simberian.com (in > Publications and Presentations sections, require registration). > > Best regards, > Yuriy > > Yuriy Shlepnev, Ph.D. > President, Simberian Inc. > 3030 S Torrey Pines Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89146, USA > Office +1-702-876-2882; Fax +1-702-482-7903 > Cell +1-206-409-2368 > Skype: Shlepnev > > www.simberian.com > Simbeor - Accurate, Fast, Easy and Affordable Electromagnetic Signal > Integrity Software > 2010 and 2011 DesignVision Award Winner > > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of bala > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 2:47 AM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Skin depth,copper,gold > > Hi all, > When I model my surface microstrip trace,generally,I am taking properties of > copper into consideration.and if my copper plated with gold or nickel,I am > suspecting if we really need to consider the properties of plating material > as well.One of the document says ,based on your skin depth choose your > material property.My question is at low freq my signal uses my entire cross > section(copper+gold) and at high frequency my skin depth shrinks and my > signal uses outer surface of my conductor(gold on top side ,copper on bottom > side).In both cases I should take both properties.How skin depth plays a > role in choosing the material property (copper or both)while modeling > microstrip? > Regards > bala > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > -- ============================= CMR Design Automation P Ltd New Delhi 9811778891 Leading Edge EDA Technologies ============================= ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu