Hello, Experts When I plot a S31 for 2 microstrip traces, say insertion loss, I'm seeing suspicious notchs as the trace have a stub. The microstrip geometry was 5 mil width, 5 mil space and 6 mil FR4 dielectric thickness, and I got RLGC model from Ansoft 2D Solver. The S31 graph was plotted by Hspice using w-element model. Those notchs did not be seen at the case of one trace with same microstrip geometry. When I calculated differential S-parameter, SDD21, those notchs were disappeared. I could not find such notchs at stripline cases either. I'm very curious why the unpredictable notchs at graph of the single-ended s-parameter happen at microstrip case. Is it the limit of RLGC transmission line model for microstrip modeling ? Sam AMD Boston ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu