Greetings, I would be happy to work with you to determine why you're having difficulty correlating ADS and PLTS measurements from the same S-Parameter file (generated from the 86100C). If interested, please reply to me directly. Best regards, Rob Sleigh Digital Test Division - Scopes Agilent Technologies, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 4:31 PM To: Kay Ira Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Simulating measured data in ADS I have used 86100C to extract S-parameters of an interconnect, but was not able to run the generated touchstone file in my simulator due to causality issues. I believe VNA is a better tool for S-parameter extraction. Regards, Ravinder Server PCB Development Hitachi Global Storage Technologies Email: Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Kay Ira <vhdlguy@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 02/05/2010 03:22 PM To si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject [SI-LIST] Simulating measured data in ADS Hi, Does any one have any experience using the method below to characterize an interconnect? 1. Use an 86100C Agilent scope with one or two TDR modules to take measurements under PLTS control. 2. Use PLTS to export a Touchstone file. 3. Use ADS transient or channel simulator to generate an eye diagram using the imported Touchstone file. I have gone through this path and I cannot get a reasonable correlation between the eye diagram synthesized by the PLTS and the one generated by the ADS simulator. The stimulus sources in PLTS and ADS are identical in terms of amplitude, rise time, Bit pattern and rate etc. I have seen a number of papers where this method is used successfully except that a VNA was used to measure the data. Regards, Keyvan Irani Raytheon ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu