I'll probably hate myself in the morning, but just can't help it... (title of thread changed also) I was cleaning car parts yesterday. I had a flashback to cleaning parts in the 1970's when I was a mechanic. Cleaned 'em in gasoline, with a cigarette hanging out of my mouth. Did it for years, never had a problem. Worked with lots of people who had the same experience. My personal experience suggests that there's no danger in cleaning car parts in gasoline while smoking cigarettes. Others suggest otherwise. =20 I might conclude that there's a conspiracy among folks to force me to buy more expensive cleansers and quit enjoying a harmless vice while engaged in brainless activities. Instead, I've long since decided that I was pretty lucky (though my liver may later say otherwise). I use a very different method to clean parts now. Heck, I even quit smoking many years ago (it's a great excuse to spoil myself on my "quit smoking anniversary"!). While I think it's always good to question whether we're being overcautious and expending resources on stuff we don't care about, I think it's also prudent to worry about stuff that other very knowledgeable people get upset about. =20 I also know that often it isn't the super-duper fast busses that kill a platform - it's the "supposedly DC" or other slow bus that wasn't given a 2nd thought. It's risetime that kills us, not clock frequency. =20 And finally, one figure of merit for an engineer is whether they can do a quick "back-of-the-envelope" calculation that gives us an idea of the risk associated with a bus. I thought Scott did a nice job of that (though I didn't look at it too intensely). Unless I could dispute some part of those calculations, I'd conclude the bus you're talking about deserves consideration. My 2cents, Jeff Loyer ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu