Andrew, To my best understanding +0.3/-0.3 overhots from rail voltage is really a dc spec., at least the designers in our group consider it in this way. I believe nowadays no I/O designers would not consider the real world transient when they work out the pad designs. I am not a product engineer, but I think the problem may lie in the cost of testing when in mass production if an ac transient is specified in the data sheet. Regards, Raymond "Ingraham, Andrew" <a.ingraham@xxxxxxxx> on 11/05/2004 00:52:51 Please respond to a.ingraham@xxxxxxxx To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc: (bcc: Raymond Leung/sdc) Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Shoots >In my opinion, the VDD+0.3V / VSS-0.3V spec is overly conservative, and it >is almost definitely a DC spec where AC transients aren't included or >weren't considered. They are probably "covering their asses" so to speak, >and never bothered looking at their ICs in anything other than a carefully >controlled test environment. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu