Bob, What is 'close' in your test board? -Eric Robert Haller wrote: > Praveen, > This is a good question and has been raised before on the SI-LIST. > Serpentine etch is often done to match clock lines or source syncronous > data lines. > > I did bench testing of serpentine lines, in conjuction with simulations. > I ran SPICE simulations using field solved 2d models then measured > varying serpentine configurations. I examined impedance and propagation > delay variations as a function of varying spacing, and signal edge rate. > > When transmission lines are serpentined 'close' to themselves the > propagation delay decreases (The lines got faster). For example if I > compare a straight control line and a sepertined line of the same length > on the same layer, with all the fixturing nulled the propagation delay > went from 176ps/in (straight line) to 170 ps/inch (serpentined line). > You can think of the signal taking a shortcut across the distributed > self capacitance of the closely serpentined lines. > You might think a propagation delay reduction is good, but I also found > the variability of prop velocity increased. I believe the variability > increased because the capacitive coupling varies based on geometry, > while normally the dielectric constant variations are the only source of > prop delay variability (for a specific rise time and frequency). The > variability is a small effect but is important when doing source > syncronous designs. > > > Regards, > Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu