Hi AB........... If the impedance of the traces is 71 ohms, then a series termination of 71 ohms will prevent reflections due to mismatch from occuring. The series termination resistor is the sum of the source impedance of the driver, and an external series resistor placed on the board. In this case, since the source impedance is 20 ohms, then the external resistor is 51 ohms. You are correct in stating that the total impedance seen by the driver is 140 ohms. If we assume (for example) that the drivers swing is from 0 to 3.3 volts, then the driver must be capable of supplying 3.3/140=23.6 mA. The load current is inversely porportional to the total load impedance seen by the driver, so I don't understand your concern about a "whopping 140 ohms." Lou Sanchez ---Original Message----- From: pintu22 [mailto:pintu22@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:47 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Series termination value If your impedence is 71 Ohms and you are driving a 71 ohms + a resistor of 71 ohms the driver incounters a whopping 140 ohms... YOu need to do an analysis of the driver to see how much you can drive. This resistance might be too much for the driver to drive as you need to jack up the buffer strength signal integrity wise series termination are used to take advantage of reflection and if there is no termination on reciever u dont worry about it AB --- In si-list@xxxx, "SEOW,ERWIN-SP (HP-Singapore,ex6)" <erwin- sp_seow@xxxx> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I have a question on series resistors termination. I have a 4 layer FR4 > board with standard PCB stackup (Trace width = 6 mils). > > We have calculated the Characteristic Impedence to be about 71 Ohm. > > With an output impedence of about 20 Ohm, the resistor value for series > termination is 71 Ohm - 20 Ohm = 50 Ohm. My question is this value too big? > Will it attenuate the signal? We are running at about 90MHz. > > Your advice is appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Erwin > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu