I always get confused with the ac level specs. What was JEDEC intent behind including these levels in the spec? From the JEDEC Standard documentation I understand that it is to take care of ringing. This means it just to provied extra noise margin over dc levels. Then why mem vendors spec timing with respect to ac levels? I have seen that most of the receivers on these interfaces (HSTL, SSTL*) can switch with just Vref +/-20,30mV of input swing. They need very small energy to switch. Much lower than the area under 1V/ns slew and ac-levels. Thanks and Regards Raj Kihong Kim <joshuakh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think you need to more specific to get the answer. But by speculatioin.... If you are comparing DC specificaton to AC specification, you would not be able to derive the numbers by simple math. It is more like things regarding power applied to logic buffers AND signal amplitude to logic threshold. Kihong Joshua Kim SI in Electronics and Photonics On 6/15/07, Canes Venatici wrote: > > Hi, > I'd gone through JEDEC SSTL_2 standard. In that I don't understand how > Vih(ac) min is arrived at Vref+0.31v? > The delta Vin min is given as 365mV. Then how the difference of 0.055v is > accounted. I tried the noise on Vref may > be imposed on 365mV, but that is just 25mV. > Could anyone clarify it? > > Thanks > Canes > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > http://sims.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu