You might want to look at Micro Cap 7 from Spectrum. They have an evaluation version that is good for up to 50 components. http://www.spectrum-soft.com/index.shtm Ed At 10:19 AM 10/10/02 -0700, Ray Anderson wrote: >There have been a couple replies to the original question >on the existance of a free spice with the following characteristic: > >"that does a good job with coupled transmission lines and lossy >transmission lines" > >There are lots and lots of free spice implementations out there, >free for the taking with varying degrees of goodness, but to my >knowledge none of them handle coupled and lossy transmission lines >in a really "good way". (whatever that means) > >Yes, some handle coupled and lossy lines, but being familiar with >industrial strength tools like Hspice and Apsim spice which have >excellent implementations of coupled and lossy lines, the majority of >the freebee's don't seem to be in the same class. > >(And before someone brings up the topic, yes, I know the t-line >models in the simulators I mentioned have their own issues :-). > >Anyway, that my 2 cents worth....... > >-Ray > > > > > > >Bob, > > > >Here is a free version of SPICE > >http://www.willingham2.freeserve.co.uk/winspice.html. Works fine and > >doesn't have any node limitations (within reason). There is no schematic > >capture with this, but hey it FREE! There is a help file that comes with > >it, but to get you started quick.... > > > >1. Click on File Open and go find your *.cir > >2. Type run at the command line > >3. Type plot v(x) to plot your node; where x is the node number > > > >If you are interested in having a schematic capture tool I can recommend > >Intusoft ICAP/4 windows, however there are many others out there for you to > >choose from. > > > >Craig Clewell > >FCI Electronics > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Bob Perlman [mailto:bobperl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:50 AM > >To: SI-List Discussion Group > >Subject: [SI-LIST] SPICE on the cheap? > > > > > > > >Hi - > > > >Is there a version of SPICE that does a good job with coupled > >transmission lines and lossy transmission lines, and doesn't cost an > >arm and a leg? Is there a version you use that's inexpensive, and > >that you're happy with? > > > >Thanks, > >Bob Perlman > >-- > >Cambrian Design Works > >Consulting on digital design, signal integrity > >http://www.cambriandesign.com > >PLEASE NOTE: My e-mail address has changed to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To unsubscribe from si-list: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > >For help: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > >List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To unsubscribe from si-list: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > >For help: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > >List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu