Matthew: Dr Johnson puts, as in his newsletter quoted earlier by Dr Wheeler, the relative permeability of Nickel to 10 as typical value at 1GHz(the range was 5-20). Regards Elie -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Herndon [mailto:mherndon@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 5:57 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Fw: Problem with Ni plated transmission line The discussion of permeability of nickel raises a question in my mind.=20 This may be a dumb question, but I bet others on the list are wondering=20 about it. I thought the permeability of ferromagnetic materials was highly=20 frequency-dependent, and that they disappear at higher frequencies. I=20 seem to recall that for iron at least you don't see the effect above a=20 few MHz, and relative permeability approaches unity. Does anyone know more about this than I do? -matt Matt Herndon ECAD Group Apple Computer On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 01:44 PM, John Barnes wrote: > > Daniel, > I am in the middle of writing an appendix for my book, Robust=20 > Electronic > Design Reference, on important properties of conductors. All of the > handbooks I've read so far say that nickel has relative permeability=20 > (mu > sub r) of 50 to 350, with 100 being typical. > > John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE > dBi Corporation > http://www.dbicorporation.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu