-----Original Message----- From: Muranyi, Arpad [mailto:arpad.muranyi@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:53 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [SI-LIST]: Which tool is the best - LINPARdisc ussion Chris, That same little bird reminded me to a discussion I had with one of the=20 engineers of the company who's simulator was used in that project you are referring to. That engineer was quite familiar with the tool's algorithms and architecture, and told me that part of the problem with the performance of those models was that the tool was not architected for such tasks, and with some architectural changes it would have been able to run much faster... I agree, modeling the receivers may not be an easy task, but it is probably not impossible either. And as we learn more about behavioral modeling we may find better ways of doing things which we would have never thought of before. (As they say, practice makes master). Arpad =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D Sure, anything is possible. And the dog ate my homework. Just kidding. Little bird always reminds me that those are very smart people and he is always grateful for the work they have done. And I am told at least one of them got it reasonably fast on first try. I never got paid to create industry standards or sell CAD tools.My current or former employers just pay me to make sure their own or customers systems work. Very smart circuit designers gave me very smart I/O. I am just lucky to even have a circuit description of it. To ask me to generate an accurate behavioral abstraction of it everytime something new comes out is beyond my limited intelligence. Case and point is the original GTL driver by Bill Gunning with the delay feedback for my first GTL system, I can't even remember how long did it take (or if ever) for IBIS to be able to generate an accurate model of it. And if at the end of the day those so call tools "will get better in the future" or "be able to do what you want in the next rev" or "add x tool to y tool and you may be able to do that", that's just too complicated for me. Remember, I am just a dumb engineer who wants one tool to do it all. Seems like I've been lucky so far with what I've got and I'll probably stick with it for awhile. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu