[SI-LIST] Re: SI work - part or full time endeavor
- From: "Ken Cantrell" <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <surfsup3@xxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:55:57 -0600
D,
I read a couple of the other postings, and here's my 2bits. Look for
another job. I tried the same thing a few years back. Too much old school
inertia. Your company isn't going fast enough or the fail rate would be
high enough that the need for an SI group, or an external consulting group,
would be self evident.
Don't waste your time. Look for a company that's doing high-speed work, and
has already gone through these painful lessons. The future of any company
with that type of mindset is doubtful. Get out early and avoid the rush.
I'm in a small(25 software/25 hardware)R&D company running at today's rates
and higher. I have two other engineers to help me cover SI/EMI. Given the
company size, that's a sizeable commitment.
As a quick big company example, look at what Dell has done over the last 3
or 4 years. They have hired a small army of SI engineers, and they are
dominating several market niches because of it. Example number two would be
Intel. Enough said on that one. Modern companies exist, they dominate
their markets, and they understand the importance of having an SI group.
Life's too short to argue over the basics.
Ken
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[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of D
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:38 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] SI work - part or full time endeavor
I work in a division of a large company that designs and manufactures boards
and systems. As many as 20 new high speed multi-layer board designs are
done every year. After hiring on, I was surprised to learn that SI was not
part of the pre-design or design verification process. I did some further
investigation and learned that many board level reliability issues were
clearly signal integrity related. After a 1/2 dozen meetings with key
decision makers I was able to secure quasi-commit on a 3 month project to
define an SI process that was suited/tailored for my division's business.
While doing so, I evaluated a few SI tools in parallel with help from this
list.
The good news is that a reasonable process is now in place along with budget
for the tools. The bad news is that the same decision makers are now
reluctant to commit full time resources to doing the SI work. It seems that
there are two reasons for this: 1) they do not understand the complexities
of the work (in fact, it seems that few EEs truly understand SI); 2) because
of item number 1, they fear that the SI work will become "science project"
oriented and will in turn delay design schedules.
In the past I have successfully leveraged feedback from this list as
supporting data (so to speak) for persuading said reluctant decision makers
to "see the light" on the SI front. So, I'd like to ask the list to help me
once more by answering the following simple questions:
a.. Is there a dedicated, full time, SI team or group at your place of
business?
b.. If you have an SI group, how many people are in the group?
If you do not wish to broadcast this information, please feel free to
respond to me directly.
Thanks in advance and best regards,
D
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