Hi Ingo, I'm using Tau and IS-Analyzer, but I have not used any other tool. I can tell you, it's not so easy to use (and fully understand what you get) as you could think at first. What I hate the most it is the interface, the spreadsheet style is not friendly at all. It's really difficult to understand specially in Tau! Another difficult point is MODELS. You need ibis models to use in IS (Mentor has a CD sold separetly, as usual) but you are going to need more... and it not easy to find them (manufacturers are not very friendly in this area). In Tau you need timing models, difficult to find too (but you can make your own models from datasheet and timing diagrams... it's hard and boring) I don't know but is there anyone who has used another tool and solved these problems easily? Is there another guy with experience using IS and TAU? Here in Spain, few people use this kind of tools (or at least I don't know any company who has bought these tools) Good luck! Regards, ============================ Carlos Castillo Alcatel Espacio Digital Engineering Tres Cantos - Madrid (Spain) ----- Mensaje Original ----- De: "Ingo Kupper" <ikupper@xxxxxxxxxxx> Fecha: Viernes, Junio 28, 2002 2:50 am Asunto: [SI-LIST] SI Tools > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello SI guys, > > I am following all those questions and answers > about SI for a year plus and I saw a lot of > questions regarding SI tools. > We are looking into buying a new CAD tool for our > hole corporation, which has locations worldwide. > So far, Mentor came in with the best offer, but I > never saw any Q&A here on the list about the > Mentor SI tool (Tau, IS-Analyzer, > IS-Floorplanner). All those tools are claiming to > be SI tools for board level timing verification, > signal integrity, delay and crosstalk analysis, > timing analysis, signal quality etc. > > I would like to get some opinions, critics, pros > and cons about the Mentor SI tools versa the > Cadence tools or Hyperlynx (which was PADS and now > is also Mentor). > Any experience and guidance would be appreciated! > > Thanks in advance, > > Ingo > ============================ > = Ingo Kupper = > = Sr. Electronics Engineer = > = ph.:(510) 732-6900 x159 = > = fx.:(510) 732-7655 = > = em.: ikupper@xxxxxxxxxxx = > ============================ > = JUMPtec Adastra = > = 3988 Trust Way = > = Hayward, CA 94545 = > ============================ > > > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/jpeg > -- File: Notebook.jpg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > http://www.freelists.or > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu